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Gnash, Lightspark, and Shumway

Posted Nov 22, 2012 0:02 UTC (Thu) by dtalen (subscriber, #86448)
Parent article: Gnash, Lightspark, and ShumwayShumway, although it suffers from a terrible name, has the benefit of Mozilla's funding. Gnash and Lightspark don't have have that luxury, but they do have the benefit of years of development. I think that, like Nathan, that Mozilla's project will probably not see the same level of adoption.

Mozilla has the option of promoting Shumway by bundling it with Firefox, but it would be unwise to turn it on by default since it's unlikely to work perfectly. In order to prevent a backlash, they would have to have it be opt-in - and even then vast majority of users are going to prefer Adobe's implementation because it will work, and Shumway may not.

Really, the people that Shumway may serve are Linux Firefox users that don't want to run proprietary software. The problem for Shumway is that Gnash and Lightspark already serve them pretty well. Also, a small market like that is unlikely to keep Mozilla putting money into Shumway if it won't get widespread adoption.

Shumway sounds interesting, but it's likely to not garner much of a following. Mac and Windows users will continue to use the proprietary plugin, and Linux users already have 'good enough' existing support.

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Posted Nov 22, 2012 0:12 UTC (Thu) by dlang (guest, #313) [Link]

> vast majority of users are going to prefer Adobe's implementation because it will work, and Shumway may not.

That assumes that the users are going to be able to GET Adobe's implementation.

Remember that Adobe has stopped development on Flash for Linux. So new versions are going to have features that you just can't get on Linux.

so users may end up being forced to choose between the Adobe version that will work for some things, and another version that works on other things.

This completely ignores the problem of vulnerabilities in the released version and what that will eventually do to the 'everyone should just run the Adobe version' mindset.

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Posted Nov 22, 2012 1:16 UTC (Thu) by roc (subscriber, #30627) [Link]

The big issue is mobile. Adobe doesn't offer an implementation for any mobile platform anymore. On mobile it's basically Shumway or nothing, and it's not hard to beat nothing.

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Posted Nov 22, 2012 23:41 UTC (Thu) by douglasbagnall (subscriber, #62736) [Link]

> On mobile it's basically Shumway or nothing, and it's not hard to beat nothing.

Actually I have been trialling nothing for about a year now, and on balance find it to be my preferred swf player. The only feature I really miss is an h264 decoder, which sometimes tempts me to use other browsers. So while I thoroughly approve of Shumway, I can't bring myself to install it and thereby lose my nothing.

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Posted Nov 23, 2012 22:10 UTC (Fri) by KaiRo (subscriber, #1987) [Link]

Mozilla is working on getting h264 decoding to work by using the hardware or software decoders already present on systems. AFAIK, that's even implemented in some of the latest Firefox for Android versions.

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Using that together with Shumway will hopefully enable even a number of video sites to work that do not (yet) serve HTML5 video.

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Posted Nov 27, 2012 15:58 UTC (Tue) by lambda (subscriber, #40735) [Link]

Hmm. I use Flash on Android with 'tap to enable'. I find that gives all the benefits of 'nothing', while still allowing you to access the occasional piece of content you still can't access any other way.

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Posted Nov 22, 2012 13:34 UTC (Thu) by dtalen (subscriber, #86448) [Link]

> That assumes that the users are going to be able to GET Adobe's implementation.
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> Remember that Adobe has stopped development on Flash for Linux. So new versions are going to have features that you just can't get on Linux.

That's true. I should have clarified that this point was about Windows and Mac users, and not about Linux. Given that Gnash and Lightspark don't have much of an audience there, I don't think it's a stretch to assume that Adobe's implementation will continue to be their choice.

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Posted Nov 23, 2012 15:30 UTC (Fri) by drag (guest, #31333) [Link]

> Remember that Adobe has stopped development on Flash for Linux. So new versions are going to have features that you just can't get on Linux.

No they didn't. They just stopped development of flash netscape plugin.

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The 'Pepper' version of Flash is vastly superior and is up-to-date.

It would be nice if Adobe Flash would die, but whatever happens on the Linux desktop has no bearing on it's fate.

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Posted Nov 23, 2012 20:12 UTC (Fri) by nix (subscriber, #2304) [Link]

s/vastly superior/almost indistinguishable, but somewhat sandboxed and not maintenance-dead/g

(Note: Pepper Flash works perfectly well with Chromium, too, so you can have your free cake with your non-free PPAPI plugin if you want it.)

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Posted Nov 23, 2012 20:58 UTC (Fri) by Jonno (subscriber, #49613) [Link]

> (Note: Pepper Flash works perfectly well with Chromium, too, so you can have your free cake with your non-free PPAPI plugin if you want it.)

Except there is no *legal* way to get the pepper Flash plugin without installing Chrome, which makes it sort of irrelevant that you don't need Chrome to run it...

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Posted Dec 4, 2012 15:49 UTC (Tue) by nix (subscriber, #2304) [Link]

You can install Chrome, build Chromium, then use the latter with the former's plugin. Works fine and lets you hack all of it except the non-free plugin (though obviously there are changes you cannot make to PPAPI without breaking the plugin).

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Posted Nov 29, 2012 18:18 UTC (Thu) by JanC_ (subscriber, #34940) [Link]

MacThe NSAPI Flash plugin doesn't work well with (recent versions of?) Chrome/Chromium, so I suppose Google wanted the PPAPI for that reason.

(The NSAPI Flash plugin still works fine with Firefox & Opera & other browsers though...)

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Posted Nov 22, 2012 0:43 UTC (Thu) by n8willis (subscriber, #43041) [Link]

Mac and Windows users will continue to use the proprietary plugin,
They might ... unless Shumway makes headway and gets rolled into Firefox. I have no idea if that's the plan, obviously, but I suspect that no-plugin-required-built-in-Flash-decoding would sound like a plausible bullet point to Mozilla High Command.

As did built-in-PDF-decoding, for instance.

Nate

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Posted Nov 22, 2012 22:25 UTC (Thu) by speedster1 (guest, #8143) [Link]

It seems like firefox needs to come up with a decent flash interpreter of some sort in the near future, and shumway does sound simpler to work with than a solution that requires cooperation between 2 separate plugins. Unless of course, they really don't care about losing a lot more Linux users to chrome...

As a current gnash user, I would be happy to see fellow linux firefox users help fund gnash rather than jumping ship to chrome, but it just doesn't seem to be happening yet.

Gnash, Lightspark, and Shumway

Posted Nov 23, 2012 15:17 UTC (Fri) by wookey (subscriber, #5501) [Link]

I've always been disappointed by the number of free software users that just installed the proprietary plugin and declared the problem solved. The small userbase of gnash and then lightspark has greatly limited the developer base and thus speed of progress.

I know it's always been easier, but the free software ecosystem isn't always about doing what's easiest. Dogfooding matters.

Yes it's true that I've never sent any patches either (I have no clue how any of this stuff works), but I have at least reported some bugs, and donated to gnash. A few thousand more people doing that for that last 4 years or so would (probably) have helped a great deal. I can't help but feel that we have collectively failed to deal well with this issue.

What about Swfdec?

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Posted Nov 22, 2012 8:49 UTC (Thu) by mgedmin (subscriber, #34497) [Link]

I remember there once were two promising alternatives to proprietary Flash: Gnash and Swfdec (this was long before Lightspark appeared). What happened to Swfdec, so it doesn't even get a mention on LWN today? Is it totally dead?

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Latest news on its website seem to be from 2008, which probably means exactly that.

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Posted Nov 22, 2012 12:27 UTC (Thu) by elvis_ (guest, #63935) [Link]

I have a book here called 'Miss Shumway Waves a Wand'. Happiness is a warm gun, and so is a title. It fits from this perspective.




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